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monkey
Stoke On Trent
365 posts
Reg: 18/2-06
Posted: 2012-08-12 11:57   » Email
Loads of you were crying out for some NEW MATERIAL from DEMON and since we made "I STILL BELIEVE" available NO RESPONSE, NOTHING, please can we have some comments good or bad whatever thanks Monkey.
[Edited 2012-08-12 12:55]

DAZZ
STOKE ON TRENT
95 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 8/2-07
Posted: 2012-08-12 23:54   » Website   » Email
I think the song is great, as I posted on iTunes! A great ballad from a great band. Really looking forward to the new album now, bring it on!

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-13 09:48
I think the songs is dreadfully cliched - especially the chorus. The lyrics defy belief ('this is my life'??) - especially from a man that has written such intelligent and profound lyrics in the past. Sorry, not impressed - well, not for legacy of Demon.

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-13 15:33   » Email
Well what can I say I have not stopped playing this track from the moment I downloaded it,Im sure I am going to wear my mobile phone out. Daves vocals are powerful and grab you the moment you start listening, the guitar solo takes you back in time to the beginnings of the NWOBHM this is an epic and for me one of Demons very best tracks. To coin a phrase this is Commercial dynamite
[Edited 2012-08-13 21:52]
rick
Limassol
41 posts
Reg: 5/2-12
Posted: 2012-08-13 15:52
Cracking track chaps!

It's quite anthemic, (is that a word)
The wife was wandering about singing it the next day so you must have done something right.

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-13 15:58   » Email
Maybe this is more to giles taste
[Edited 2012-08-13 15:59]

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-13 16:33   » Email
rick wrote:
Cracking track chaps!

It's quite anthemic, (is that a word)
The wife was wandering about singing it the next day so you must have done something right.


I know where your wifes coming from there matey cant stop singing it myself its one of those that wont let you go sticks in your head

Very Happy

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-14 13:30
The chorus has that 80's hair metal anthem thing going on for sure - in fact, it reminds me of something in particular but can't quite place it yet.

One can imagine the glossy video with fake slow-motion stage action, the dolly bird in the front row and the crowd holding cigarette lighters etc etc.

And they said they'd never 'sell out'!? Coming damn close to it chaps!
the truth sayer
world
26 posts
Reg: 3/12-11
Posted: 2012-08-14 13:42
i love 80's hair metal ,MANY great bands still doin it today,Gotthard ,Edguy, Europe to name a few doesent have to be clever to be good ,great song fellas catchy simple I LOVE IT!! bring on the album Very Happy
Andy
33 posts
Reg: 16/2-11
Posted: 2012-08-15 00:08
Would prefer Bobs Knocking' on Heavens Door, though!
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-16 00:46
Bob dylan shite ...like a bex bissel ...dokken y and t motley crue whitesnake tesla gotthard accept msg edguy evidence one kingdome come iron fire ratt stryper whitesnake dio thunder fm magnum lizzy scorpions saxon skid row tobruk lynch mob journey blackfoot ..you get the idea music is all personel and it depends on how old you are and what you were into growing up my age group are into the above bands older people like sabbath purple zepp ccr cream beatles.. andy likes dylan fairport hunter its all about your teenage years and what you listened to growing up what makes you happy..our new single is all about growing up with the music you love and still do after 30 years/,,, its not political or trying to be clever just an anthem of the music we love... you love...its all individual taste so lets not judge each other let rock rule the world instead of the shite we are fed on mainstream tv ...proper bands playing proper songs live LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-16 08:45   » Email
Nicely put Neil totally agree, I was a 60's child and grew up listening to the likes of Elvis Presley,Bill Haley,Deep Purple,Clapton,Hendrix,Slade,Suzie Quatro and my all time favourite Drummer Cozy Powell which shaped my tastes in music.

As a young lad my very first music idol was Elvis Presley Until I found Suzie Quatro,Slade and of course Cozy,my lovely wife is a fan of 80's new wave depeche mode gary newman all that stuff (athough shes does like Bon Jovi and G,N,R) not to my taste but then Gill cant stand Acdc,Quo or Black Sabbath. If we all liked the same things it would be a boring old world Very Happy Roll on sept 17th and the release of Unbroken
[Edited 2012-08-16 09:05]
hugabaddare
aaland
4 posts
Reg: 16/11-11
Posted: 2012-08-16 16:52
I`m sad.............

monkey
Stoke On Trent
365 posts
Reg: 18/2-06
Posted: 2012-08-17 09:45   » Email
Just like to point out that DYLAN is one of DAVE HILL'S favourite writers!
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 10:16
monkey wrote:
Just like to point out that DYLAN is one of DAVE HILL'S favourite writers!


My point exactly his age group loved dylan he listened to him growing up his youth was dylan stones beatles as was yours mike he was in the prime of his life ...i totally understand this isnt a hard and fast rule but i think music to alot of people is a timeline to your life it definately is in mine

russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 50 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-17 10:38   » Website
Sooooooo.
I haven't been shouting about previews/single, have I?

As I mentioned in an earlier thread I presumed Demon was evolving into a more metal/rock way rather than the progressive/epic way(which I prefer).

I Still Believe, the (1:st) single song released is a retrorock ballad to the mid 80's(Y&T styleish?) in my ears and a way Demon never touched these years.
The intro was promising, then a rather 'heard it all before' ballad showed itself. Nothing wrong with the song really, but my hopes was a little bit more.

I hope it gets some airplay!!!

After listening to Prey & Fill Your Head With Rock from the Blacksmith Arms gig I'd prefered Prey as single.

But HEY, soon it's september and I'll have a NEW DEMON album in my CD-player which probably is meant to play LOUD!


Do we wait forever or move on?

/*Gotta break away these chains and start to live again*\
[Edited 2012-08-17 10:44]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-17 17:28
I'm going to have to take back some of what I have said; Yes, it's a tad cliched, yes the lyrics leave a little to be desired, but having listened to the song in its entirety - it is powerful, well played, well recorded...kinda grows and sticks with you. Well done! A small slice of humble pie for dinner I think. Embarassed
[Edited 2012-08-17 17:29]
Andy
33 posts
Reg: 16/2-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 18:43
I was actually refering to the Dylanesque melody that I Believe Has. It wouldn't be my favourite track as I have heard some of the other stuff.
I went through the seventies and eighties going to as many festivals and gigs that I could possible afford. I recall walking back to Leek from Trentham Gardens Ballroom having seen Deep Purple, walking back from Buxton Festival after two days in the muck, big follower of rock music in my teens, but then there was all the other genres I enjoyed everything from classics, opera, chart pop, it's all there and still is. Still love rock music, but for the same reason I havn't got a favorite football team I havn't got a favorite genre of music, just love the lot. By way I have never knowingly heard a Fairport convention track, I love Dylans writing but not performing, and slightly biased to local band 'Hunter' as I worked as sound engineer for a few years in the seventies.
Love to you all
Andy

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 23:04   » Email
Hmmm...I like it! Wink

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 23:25   » Email
russel wrote:



Do we wait forever or move on?

/*Gotta break away these chains and start to live again*\


...
[Edited 2012-08-17 23:26]

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 23:29   » Email
demon drummer wrote:

i think music to alot of people is a timeline to your life it definately is in mine


I couldn't agree more Neil...but we don't have to be chained to it.

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-08-17 23:32   » Email
Andy wrote:
I recall walking back to Leek from Trentham Gardens Ballroom having seen Deep Purple, walking back from Buxton Festival after two days in the muck,
Andy


Man alive! You saw DEEP PURPLE live?!!! BASTARD! Very Happy x
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-18 15:39
Steve Watts 2001 wrote:
demon drummer wrote:

i think music to alot of people is a timeline to your life it definately is in mine


I couldn't agree more Neil...but we don't have to be chained to it.


Totally agree and despite what you may think im not just into rock i for instance love the christians go west john hiatt brand new heavies ,i was just trying to put across my side of things,when myself and dave started to work on the album he explained that we wanted a straight ahead classic rock album ,and by the very nature that i only play a limited amount of guitar and bass it was never going to be a prog rock epic,it was through ray leaving that it became more and more of my songs with dave...not through choice i mite add.

The band has had loads of differant members throughout its lifetime so the music will obviously change, and the feel will be differant i have been lucky enough to be on two studio albums with demon and done some ace gigs and met some wonderfull people,as ive said before we must enjoy the time we have left and do as many gigs as we can.....ps sorry about the dylan quote andy you no my feelings on him ha ha
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-18 15:56
Sorry to go off the initial thread the new album is a classic rock album straight ahead catchy choruses big anthems its definatly a grower ..were sick of it allready ha ha

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-20 08:58
I recall walking back to Leek from Trentham Gardens Ballroom having seen Deep Purple, walking back from Buxton Festival after two days in the muck


My uncle walked back from Pavillion Gardens Ballroom in Buxton to my parent's house and told them he had just seen a great band with a strange name............'The Beatles' - it's TRUE!

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-20 09:08
I didn't enjoy Dylan's work (mainly due to his 'vocal') until I started to understand his lyrics - I mean, REALLY understand them. It appears consistently coded in two layers of meaning - one on the surface, immediately accessible; the other, hidden and symbolic - CLEVER! Then, I understood his association with 'The Grateful Dead'. I went to see him in concert once.
[Edited 2012-08-20 09:09]

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-20 12:02   » Email
I love the guitar solo on this single great work,if the 3 tracks we have heard so far are an indication of the the quality of Unbroken I think were in for a treat I have my headphones at the ready waiting to be blasted with the power of rock.

I also have to say Im a fan of Bobs work one of the original rebels who held no fear of speaking his mind some very good messages and sentiments in his writings.
[Edited 2012-08-20 12:33]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-20 12:14
It's a nice guitar solo, well executed and is extended isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong (only had a couple of listens) but it runs over more than the standard 8 bars.
shogberg
Stockholm Sweden
13 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 20/8-12
Posted: 2012-08-20 14:30

[Edited 2015-11-27 19:58]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-20 14:52
It does sound straight out of the 80s. I played it to my 15 year old daughter without any introduction and she said "It's OK, it's like Journey or something - don't like the vocals". It does reek of AOR but I would put it more in the Heart category(certainly the chorus) and Y&T of course. It's not classic Demon, it could be anyone really.
[Edited 2012-08-20 15:00]
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-20 17:14
Its very very strange to me that people keep refering to the song i still believe as sounding like y and t...they are an unknown band to most people..and very underated in my opinion..exactly what song does it sound like and what album is it on ...thanks neil
LasseC
Norrköping, Sverige
7 posts
Reg: 20/8-12
Posted: 2012-08-20 22:31
Hmm, I haven't listened very much to any "new" Demon - the last album I bought and really devoted some time to was "Blow-out" - so I guess I have some catching up to do .)

I think like the production and the arrangement better than the song itself right now, it's pretty down to earth and powerful without being overloaded. It feels good for the rest of the album, I think. But the song grows on you (like all Demon).

I agree with the chorus being "anthemic" (and maybe a little bit cliché)... but isn't that what Demon always been about? "Large" choruses? Sometimes a little bit too much and over the top. But very often right on the spot...

I look forward to the rest of the album!

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-21 08:32
exactly what song does it sound like and what album is it on ...thanks neil


It doesn't have to sound like any specific song Neil (what the corresonding album has to do with it I have not a clue) to put the music in mind of another artist/band; feel, chord sequence/progression, melodies, style etc etc all come into play.

Don't worry, we all do it. How can you like a certain band/artist and not be influenced by them - particularly in any songwriting...it's quite natural.
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-21 09:59
Giles wrote:
exactly what song does it sound like and what album is it on ...thanks neil


It doesn't have to sound like any specific song Neil (what the corresonding album has to do with it I have not a clue) to put the music in mind of another artist/band; feel, chord sequence/progression, melodies, style etc etc all come into play.

Don't worry, we all do it. How can you like a certain band/artist and not be influenced by them - particularly in any songwriting...it's quite natural.


My point is that i would be very suprised if you had any y and t albums at all giles perhaps ive misjudged your musical tastes,if you do have any i was asking which ones,and if you dont i was asking how you can compare the new songs to a band you dont listen to.

I am proud to be compared to y and t they are a truly mega band live and have the best singer guitarist ever...we also pay tribute on FILL YOUR HEAD to phil kennemore who sadly passed away last year after a battle with cancer...any true fan will know the sound im on about neil...

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-21 14:06
My point is that i would be very suprised if you had any y and t albums at all giles perhaps ive misjudged your musical tastes,if you do have any i was asking which ones,and if you dont i was asking how you can compare the new songs to a band you dont listen to.


Your suspicion is correct; I don't have any Y&T albums Neil. I don't have to possess albums of artists to have heard their style. I have seen them though.

Incidentally, "Rock 'n Roll's Gonna Save the World" is a pretty similar lyric Wink

For your information, and in case you think you may have misjudged my musical tastes, listen to "Taking the World by Storm" and "Spaced Out Monkey" by a band called Demon and you would be pretty close to my tastes.
[Edited 2012-08-21 14:12]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-21 14:20
monkey wrote:
Loads of you were crying out for some NEW MATERIAL from DEMON and since we made "I STILL BELIEVE" available NO RESPONSE, NOTHING, please can we have some comments good or bad whatever thanks Monkey.


Monkey, you got 5 different responses to your initial post of '"I Still Believe"..and pretty much the same people posted again here. Why would you expect anything more than the "5" or so that bother to contribute to this discussion forum? Please remember, the only person that ever really wanted or tried to keep this forum alive is the one you appear to condemn......go on remove this!
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-21 15:01
I only write the music mr hill takes care of melody and lyrics i doubt very much he knows the track youre refering giles ..he does obviously no of y and t

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-23 08:58   » Email
No offence Giles but I cannot for the life of me work out where you get Y & T from when listening to the new tracks from Unbroken

Jimbo
Norrköping,Sweden
28 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 14/2-07
Posted: 2012-08-29 18:11   » Email
I must say it was a happy surprise! It takes some guts for a band like Demon to release a ballad as the first single from the new album. As the song progressed when I listened to it, in headphones of course, I noticed that my smile just got wider and wider. Cliche'? So be it! It beats the living crap out of most ballads I've heard anyway. It's like Dave and Co. shows the rest how it's supposed to be done. I frigging love it! Catchy as hell, and I can't stop singing it for myself.

Reminds me of a similar situation that I've experienced with Demon. If you don't agree, well...look on my face... Laughing If you listen to bands like Nightwish etc., don't they play songs like if they wanted to sound like Remembrance Day? It feels like it's the template for all that sort of music. Anyway, that could be just me... Smile

Can't wait 'til the release! Cheers fellas!
NP: with bacon crisps, yum yum

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-29 20:31   » Email
Welcome to the asylum Lars also great to see you posting again Jimbo how are you matey

Jimbo
Norrköping,Sweden
28 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 14/2-07
Posted: 2012-08-30 12:58   » Email
I'm doing quite alright. Working like a dog every day driving my delivery van. Long days and hardly any spare time. But pay's ok so I can't complain. Doing my driver's test for motorbike next week, and I am almost crapping my pants of nervousnesssisstiety....=)

Yeah, it's been some time since I was an active member here, but I'll do my best to get back to my former level of posting. Kinda missed you all here...=)

How about you Kev? How's life treating ya'?
NP: with my cat.
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-08-30 13:50
Hi jimbo hope your well mate glad to see you back on the forum...also good luck to you on your motorbike test im sure you will fly it

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-08-30 19:05   » Email
I'm not too bad Jimbo tnx like yourself I'm looking forward to purchasing Unbroken when it's released. Good to hear all is well with you matey

Jimbo
Norrköping,Sweden
28 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 14/2-07
Posted: 2012-09-04 17:13   » Email
demon drummer wrote:
Hi jimbo hope your well mate glad to see you back on the forum...also good luck to you on your motorbike test im sure you will fly it


You were spot on there mate. I sailed through it with no hiccups or errors anywhere. Now all I have to do is fix up my Kaw 1100 Spectre and cruise on! ( Some oil changes and minor stuff. It hasn't run for 2 years, just been standing i a garage :? )
NP: with motorbikes!
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