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russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 51 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-18 19:27   » Website
So has anybody got it yet?
Any reflections?

I'm still waiting for the mail(woman) to bring it to me.
Been home for a short lunch stop both monday & tuesday to check.

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-18 19:59
Got my copy today - nice booklet editon was a pleasant surprise. Given it one 'spin' and unfortunately sounds like where 'Better the devil' left off - i.e just simple, rather cliched metal songs (much better recorded though), but will give it time to grow to be fair....
NP: Unbroken - Demon

DAZZ
STOKE ON TRENT
95 posts
Age: 45 years
Reg: 8/2-07
Posted: 2012-09-18 23:31   » Website   » Email
Got my copy and I think it is awesome! From the first to the last track, I loved it. It has been well worth the wait and the packaging is great, love the booklet. Demon Guys, you should be proud! Evil or Very Mad
Saleck
Huddersfield, UK
58 posts
Age: 31 years
Reg: 22/3-12
Posted: 2012-09-19 02:28   » Website
I'm waiting for Plastichead to get off their Plasticarse and at least tell me when my copy was shipped.. if it's been shipped at all yet.

If the record is a lot like BTDYK then I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy it a lot as I enjoyed it's almost heavy metal like guitars and solos and high energetic songs.

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-19 17:30   » Email
Well what can I say this for me is Demons best album yet a true rocker got me hooked right from the start the intro draws you in softly then bang it hits you like a shell from a howitzer with prey a real headbanger with an awsum guitar solo and great vocals from Dave,followed by the classic 80's rock sounding Shine a light again solid vocal performance from Dave and an excellent guitar solo.

This is followed by the title track of the album Unbroken which quickens the pace a little and keeps you hooked with stunning guitar work on a pare with judas priests Kk Downing for me a good mix of guitar and keyboard,the pace slows down with the next track showcasing Daves great vocals this one I think will be a quiete anthem for demon the awsum Wings Of Steel. Next comes more headbanging rock in the form of Fill Your Head with rock,Take Me To Your Leader comes next this one sounds very much influenced by pink floyd in its chorus and overall feel but still keeping the heavy rock tones as opposed to the progressive feel of some other demon tracks from other albums another great track, private lives is the next track very much an 80's rock track medium paced followed by the slower paced We Can Make It and then a quicker paced ballad type track What About The Night ending with the newly released single I still believe which I have already reviewed on here all In all a real rocker of an album.

If you love real headbanging footstomping rock you can get your teeth into this is definatley the album for you, if like giles you love progressive rock such as wonderous stories by Yes or hairy fairy nonesense by the enid ie:keyboard orientated prog rock then its not for you this is a rock album pure and simple if you want to rock like we all did back in the 80's jumping up and down footstomping and headbanging
while also playing air guitar at home in front of your tv or music system then this is definatley the album for you.
[Edited 2012-09-19 19:02]

Max Schreck
Germany
29 posts
Age: 50 years
Reg: 6/2-09
Posted: 2012-09-19 21:07
Release Date in Germany is September 28th. Crying or Very sad

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-19 22:01
"if like giles you love progressive rock such as wonderous stories by Yes or hairy fairy nonesense by the enid ie:keyboard orientated prog rock then its not for you "

Interesting that you know what I likw. For your information, the only progressive rock band I really like is Genesis (well, Tony Banks). I very much admire the 'musicality' of prog rock bands, but I overwhelmingly favour the rare 'thinking man's hard rock' like Demon circa 1983 - 1991!!

The music on this album could be ANY heavy metal band from the 80s, and it only demonstrates to me that Mal Spooner and Steve Watts (maybe Ray Walmsley) have brought out the very best in Dave Hill in writing thus far.

If this is Demon 'at their best', as you say, then I don't like the band as it is extremely ordinary.
[Edited 2012-09-19 22:25]

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-19 22:25   » Email
I think you need to take that suitcase and navigate yourself away from this forum to enable some sanity to return to it Giles,you obviously do not like demon so why log onto a forum where you don't have respect for band member's or their musical output. While I respect your right to an opinion that does not give you the right to be abusive which btw is why I have been so negative towards you if you wish respect to be given to you earn it as we all have to earn respect in life .

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-20 09:46   » Email
I personally like all the band lineups and will not compare them as I feel that would be unfair as every one of the members and former members have thier own talents and merits that are different in thier own way, comparing them as I said is unfair to them and the great music they have produced or helped to produce while a part of Demon.

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-20 12:51
"I think you need to take that suitcase and navigate yourself away from this forum to enable some sanity to return to it"

It's insane to say that the music is cliched?????
"you obviously do not like demon so why log onto a forum where you don't have respect for band member's or their musical output."

I do like Demon and want to discuss why their music has deteriorated to such basic levels. The album could be Saxon, Tygers of Pan Tang - any old basic stuff. Don't you feel this is a far cry from what Demon had been 1983 - 91 plus the SOM album?? Why would a fan not comment on this?

"While I respect your right to an opinion that does not give you the right to be abusive"

Where is my abuse? Just tell me that! I said the album sounded cliched and you told me which artists I like (which is nonsense) and then ask me to leave as you don't concur with my opinions. Have you ever stopped, re-read your replies and considered how unreasonable, aggressive, illogical and violent they actually are?? Well, you should - there is only on agressor on here and that's you!
Saleck
Huddersfield, UK
58 posts
Age: 31 years
Reg: 22/3-12
Posted: 2012-09-20 15:27   » Website
As a newer fan, I like Demon's Prog Rock stage and their earlier / later NWoBHM / Hard Rock stages in their career.

If Demon kept making the same stuff over and over, people would say "Oh geez, when are we going to get something DIFFERENT from you guys? Its always the same stuff"

Yes we will probably never see a return to The Plague era style of writing but that's what makes that album special. If they made another 4-5 in the same style straight after The Plague then that album wouldnt be as special as it is today.

From what I can tell anyway, The Plague was written in 1983. 1984 was around the corner and George Orwell's book mustve been selling pretty well if you know what I mean.

Sometimes, bands sometimes feel as if they need to change things up before they become stagnant and cliche'd. If they don't feel that way then it's down to the fans to decide if they want to continue supporting the band or move on.

Just be thankful that Demon have stuck around for so long in the first place to make what could be possibly your favourite album. I would never have found the band if it wasnt for a glowing 10/10 review of Taking The World By Storm.

Be happy with what you've got and don't belittle people for their tastes which you might not agree with.

This has gone on for too long, I'll be quiet now.
NP: The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-09-20 21:01
Hello fellow demonites hope your all keeping well,you should be able to listen to the new album as we speak i see a few posts stateing the cd is still not out yet be patient im sure it wont be long.

Giles has come up trumps with his review as i expected he absolutely thinks it ace and rite up his musical alley and he couldnt have wished for anything else,many thanks giles cant fault you mate your signed copies here at my shop as you requested ready when you are ,its a real honour to be compared to the tygers ...good friends of ours and also SAXON a smallish band who dont really do many gigs ,also for the obvious pat on the back at my song writing capabilities again many thanks it means alot coming from a song writing genious like yourself
[Edited 2012-09-20 21:02]
NP: president

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 09:05
"If Demon kept making the same stuff over and over, people would say "Oh geez, when are we going to get something DIFFERENT from you guys? Its always the same stuff" "

Fair enough, but this is just basic 80s metal AGAIN. It's not exactly experimental, breaking new ground (oops, no pun intended) so what is the justification for dumbing everything down? Otherwise I accept your point there.

"Yes we will probably never see a return to The Plague era style of writing but that's what makes that album special. If they made another 4-5 in the same style straight after The Plague then that album wouldnt be as special as it is today."

I'm not asking for another 'Plague' (I'm not overly fond of that anyway) - I just want to know why the music has been dumbed down that's all. I think some of you are reading too much into my comments.

"Sometimes, bands sometimes feel as if they need to change things up before they become stagnant and clichéd. If they don't feel that way then it's down to the fans to decide if they want to continue supporting the band or move on."

Well, that is just what this new album is: 'stagnant and clichéd'. Who's supporting Demon anyway? The fans of other bands at a European open air festival? Remember, there have been a handful of responses to a brand new album released this week - does that not tell you something???

"Just be thankful that Demon have stuck around for so long in the first place to make what could be possibly your favourite album. I would never have found the band if it wasnt for a glowing 10/10 review of Taking The World By Storm."

I am pleased with their longevity but it makes it even more frustrating in some ways that for 20 years we have had ONE album that sounds remotely like classic Demon from the previous 10 years!!!

"Be happy with what you've got and don't belittle people for their tastes which you might not agree with."

I think you should direct that at Kevin. I just gave MY opinion of the album; it is me that has been attacked for it not agreeing with his. Some of you should read these posts more carefully.


"Giles has come up trumps with his review as i expected he absolutely thinks it ace and rite up his musical alley and he couldnt have wished for anything else,many thanks giles cant fault you mate your signed copies here at my shop as you requested ready when you are ,its a real honour to be compared to the tygers ...good friends of ours and also SAXON a smallish band who dont really do many gigs ,also for the obvious pat on the back at my song writing capabilities again many thanks it means alot coming from a song writing genious like yourself"

It is nothing personal Neil at all. From what I know of you, you are a good guy (although those threats may have shown a daker side) and a good heavy metal musician from what I know. The new album is just 80s heavy metal and cliched - even the lyrics are cliched which surprise me from Dave.

I think the final three lines from 'White Queen' sum things up appropriately:

Dear friend goodbye
No tears in my eyes
So sad it ends as it began
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 10:32
Giles you keep saying how your a big demon fan then continue to slag the band ...a bit like me saying i really like giles hes a good mate apart from his 80s streaks big nose and denim jacket...get my drift nothing agaisnt you mate thats how it is .
In reallity your a steve watts fan you only like the albums he did ,read your own comments if you disagree,i understand you dont like unbroken but i dont think you need to keep slaggin it so please enough is enough youve said your bit ,so please leave it alone

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 11:10
Review so far after a few spins:

Prey (Intro) is quite nice as it sounds pretty foreboding, atmospheric and exciting, but unfortunately it simply gives way to a box-standard Heavy Metal opener (Prey) that reminds me of Saxon for some reason. VERY ordinary.

The next track 'Shine a light', I won't comment on suffice to say it sounds like it was written in the shower whilst shampooing one's hair. Sorry, but I have come up with better choruses when disposing of internal waste.

Unbroken - Actually, this has some appeal; whether it is just the fact that I like the idea of the 'Bark at the moon' and 'Looks that Kill' riffs being merged, or that there is a reasonable catchy chorus I'm not clear - maybe both factors - it's passable imo! Although, "wheels keep turning" and 'Highway burning" are bad clichés!!

Wings Of Steel - breaks things up quite nicely and is pleasant enough, but is bland, clichéd AOR at the end of the day.

Fill Your Head With Rock - It starts of promising as though the band are going to try something other than a heavy guitar riff as the basis of an up-tempo song, but ends up just being nothing. Stupid title and a stupid, basic song as far as I am concerned.

I have usually switched off by this time and so cannot review the rest until I have digested it......

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 11:21
Giles you keep saying how your a big demon fan then continue to slag the band ...a bit like me saying i really like giles hes a good mate apart from his 80s streaks big nose and denim jacket...get my drift nothing agaisnt you mate thats how it is .
In reallity your a steve watts fan you only like the albums he did ,read your own comments if you disagree,i understand you dont like unbroken but i dont think you need to keep slaggin it so please enough is enough youve said your bit ,so please leave it alone


Oh, name calling now - that's as childish as anyone could get - figures.

I collected all the fanzines, travelled 300 miles and slept in the rain to see Demon once - so don't accuse me of not being a fan please - this was well before your involvement.

Neil, 'Spaced Out Monkey' is one of my all-time favourite albums (top 5) and three tracks from 'Taking..' are in my top 5 favourite tracks of all time - in fact, What do you think about hell?' is my favouruite track ever! So, why would I not claim to like Demon and be interested in further developments?? The two albums since SOM have been from the sublime to the ridiculous in my opinion and wonder where the hell those SOM songs came from (I have an idea).

I thought Steve Watts brought out the best in Dave Hill's writing, and I'm not afraid to make such a declaration - if that makes me a 'Steve Watts fan' to you then so be it. It's hardly the point.

The bottom line is: this current musak is very far removed from what people associate with Demon - if I am to be attacked for saying this then so be it, but that is wrong.
[Edited 2012-09-21 11:28]
Scotty
Earth
20 posts
Reg: 1/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 12:33   » Email
Okay, here ¡s my review

To be honest, I wasn't holding out much hope for Unbroken.
I'm firmly in the Prog Rock camp when it comes to Demon and although "Better the Devil You Know" had a couple of killer tunes for me it was "Demon by Numbers".

Having heard "I Still Believe" I was unimpressed, wasn't into 80's ballads back in the day not going to start now, more the wife's territory that one!

So, let's face it my expectations were low, but hell, I was always in for the long haul, pre-ordered it and waited!

On arrival the "booklet" (nearest thing to a gatefold) Unbroken was ripped on to the IPod and ready to spin. Nice package, simple and effective, it stands out, for me product is king, downloads are for "Schmucks!"

Prey (intro) - I had a mate who once said a Demon album could be judged on the quality of the intro¡KWell this is up my street, it's like a short outtake form Jaz Coleman's and Anne Dudley¡¦s "Song's From Victorious City" - 8/10 and into Prey...

Prey - What a great opener!!! "You better run for your life"Solid Rocker, great chorus 8/10

Shine a Light - Janet and John Demon¡Kreminds me of "Heart of Our Time era" maybe it's the "Light" reference ¡V Solid and catchy 7/10

Unbroken - Brooding and relentless, nice Keyboards, (could be higher in the mix?) ends too early for me, I didn't want it to end... 8/10

Wings of Steel - Terrible title, lyrically treading water, however catchy as hell! Wife music... 6/10

Fill Your Head with Rock - Talking of terrible titles!! I even considered not listening to this! It's has now become a guilty pleasure, got to give it an 8/10 as the 10 year old loves it! Probably a better demographic to aim for than a 44 year old!

Take me to your Leader - Favourite track off the album with a "Spaced out Monkey era"vibe... 9/10

Private Lives - Expected a filler, not the case, "one day a star, the next day a clown", we all know that feeling 8/10

We Can Make it -"Breakout" era mid paced rocker filler 5/10

What About The Night - Demon do Magnum!! It has a Clarkin guitar sound and Stanway esque Keyboards love it 8/10

I Still Believe - Still Pap!! But's it growing on me....I'll be loving it by the end of the week 4/10

To sum up it's not The Plague, BSA or Spaced Out Monkey, take it for what it is well produced rock!! It's won me over, great hooks, catchy, loving it, just like an Unexpected Guest!!! Very Happy
[Edited 2012-09-21 12:41]
NP: Take Me To Your Leader...You Know Who!!

russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 51 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 14:02   » Website
'Take me to your leader' is my favourite track after two spins.
Saleck
Huddersfield, UK
58 posts
Age: 31 years
Reg: 22/3-12
Posted: 2012-09-21 15:05   » Website
I wasn't directing my comments at any particular person Giles. I was just stating my opinion that's all.

Nowhere in my (Unedited) Post do I mention any names.
NP: More Skyrim, this game will be the death of me

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 16:08   » Email
Hello

Some interesting conversations around the new Demon album, (which I haven't heard yet apart from the single which I really quite like), and it's interesting to see that the favourite track so far seems to be "Take Me To Your Leader" (described as Spaced Out Monkey'ish)...which is really odd, as this album again appears to be a least favourite amongst fans?

I think SOM is an excellent album by the way and thought at the time that it's unpopularity was largely due to the fact that the band were bravely trying something a bit different. Now a very traditional '80's album has been delivered (apparently) and this has been criticised as too traditional. Man! You certainly can't please all the Demon fans all the time can you?

I personally believe that this is largely due to a lack of identity (or rather confusing identity), and that this has always been a troublesome major issue for Demon. You have that name for a start (heavily criticised throughout the '80's when I was writing for the band); then...are they progressive?/progressive metal?/NWOBHM?/Classic Rock?/Heavy Metal/AOR? All of these?

I thought (mainly due to Mike Stones earlier accusations of the Demon album poll being fixed) that you might be interested to see the top 20 DEMON songs on the DDR - Demon YouTube Channel (of course this is heavily biased due to the fact that there are very few songs featuring other Demon composers).

Anyway, for what it counts; I do rather like the single from Unbroken; clichéd it may be, unimaginative too, but its played very well; the chorus is very catchy, and the sentiments delivered sincerely I think.

I'll give the album a listen and put my two-penneth-worth in at a later date..."Take Me To Your Leader" - very good...wouldn't happen to be any references to a certain spaced-out (monkey)mega-dude in the lyrics again would there Dave? Careful...


THE DEMONOLATERS - DDR - DEMON YOUTUBE TOP 20:

1: Time Has Come - 5,406 views
2: No More Hell On Earth (CD Re-Master) - 3,673
3: Night Of The Demon (Live In Germany) - 1,217
4: Remembrance Day - 1,147
5: What Do You Think About Hell - 1,018
6: Blue Skies I Red Square - 895
7: Tonight (The Hero is Back) - 638
8: Barons Of Darkness/Hold On To The Dream - 595
9: Remembrance Day (Live In Germany) - 589
10: Fever In The City/Wonderland (12? Re-Mix) - 468
11: Grown-Ups/Summit/One Small Step/First Class/Cold In The Air - 439
12: No More Hell On Earth (Orig.Vinyl) - 416
13: The Plague (Live In Germany) - 402
14: 'Secret Message' (from Heart Of Our Time) - 396
15: Don't Break The Circle (Live In Germany) - 395
16: Commercial Dynamite/The Life Brigade - 311
17: The Life Brigade (Orig. Vinyl) - 296
18: Coming Home - 294
19: Finale (The Dude Rides Out) (Orig. Vinyl) - 270
20: Life On The Wire (Live In Germany) - 264
[Edited 2012-09-21 16:17]

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 16:59   » Email
Something we agree on steve I think SOM is an underated album very much so, but we all have our tastes in music and cannot expect others to like the same things we like ourselves. Giles we need to end this argueing its childish and juvenile everyone gathered you dont like the present demon line up thats your choice, but to constantly slate the band and its musical output is not good.

That is the reason why I have been not so positive towards you if you dont like the recent output say it but dont constantly remind us of that and slate the band its not big and makes you look small as well as annoying other Demon fans, can we end this fued once and for all please and be sensible for once no more negativity towards Demon members constructive criticism not insults and disrespect.
[Edited 2012-09-21 17:01]

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 17:38   » Email
Hello Kevin

Thanks for your reply although I find it rather sad that you turned it into another rebuke against Giles. I had no idea that you were being employed by Demon to police the-demon website (or moderate it for that matter); and chastise people for having opinions different to yourself, in an often, incredibly patronising manner. I think that I have stated before that I don't always agree with Giles' comments or methods of delivery but he has every right to express his opinions even if this comes across as negative towards the band.

You and others openly critique both myself and Giles yet maintain the same double standards when it comes to protecting what you perceive to be your "turf". I would suggest that there are members of this forum who consider themselves to be far more powerful than they actually are in true reality, and only afford due respect when it sites their own motivations.

Until this changes, and truthful and open debate is engaged, I'm afraid that this situation will ever, stay the same.

Your position or opinions do not "put you in my bad books" Kevin, as you put it, rather grandiosely, in a reply to an earlier blog of mine. I respect the work and support you have done for Demon, but please be aware of the fact that you are a fan; not a member of some elite cartel.

There are things going on below the water-line of which you have absolutely no idea or import within.

Steve Watts
[Edited 2012-09-21 17:40]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 18:16
"I wasn't directing my comments at any particular person Giles. I was just stating my opinion that's all."

OK Saleck, that's understood. I just needed to clarify my points as it often seems necessary.

"Something we agree on steve I think SOM is an underated album very much so, but we all have our tastes in music and cannot expect others to like the same things we like ourselves. Giles we need to end this argueing its childish and juvenile everyone gathered you dont like the present demon line up thats your choice, but to constantly slate the band and its musical output is not good. "

You seem very 'brave' with me Kevin as everything you have to say to me is critical and/or abusive. I say SOM is underrated and you ignore that; Steve says it's underrated and you declare your concurrence. Perhaps you would like to meet me agin Kevin for a 'clear the air' talks? I went out of my way to see you home once - I could do it again.
the truth sayer
world
26 posts
Reg: 3/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 18:28
Heres my ten penneth for what its worth,album arrived this morning, as i have said before i love eighties metal so no problem there ,yes its cliched in parts ,very metal 80's ,well produced some fabulous solos and vocal ,i love it ! well done lads and still undeniably Demon, oh and someone mentioned corny lyrics (or as good as) have you never listened to Demon lyrics ? some are fantastic but some are extremely corny no change there then.

In some ways i feel for Giles he is the same as anyone entitled to his opinion and seems to me to only RISE when people RISE to his questions or opinions,best thing to do is just dont reply then surely he can have no more to say on the matter(i suppose thats me RISING to Giles there)

Steve Watts was a great writer within Demon and i love most of his work with the band but for me HE is the worst culprit for misuse of the forum,the memories from his Demon days that he places on the forum are both interesting and informative a great read,he also informs us of his new project/s again informative and worth a look BUT his what i can only describe as spamming of the Demon forum is highly annoying and in bad taste,if this type of spamming were attempted on say facebook, myspace, twitter etc... it would be policed ,deleted and the member barred ,just my opinion of course

xx Wink

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 18:50   » Email
Ah yes...the Sayer of "Truth"'...so honest and self-convicted that they have to deliver their opinions behind a pseudonym and then promptly vanish!

Laughing
[Edited 2012-09-21 18:51]

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-21 19:09   » Email
(Maybe he has to get home quickly, before midnight...before he turns back into a member of DEMON) hahahahah!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Anyway...good luck with the album guys- I hope it does well.

IMTERMISSION OVER

S
[Edited 2012-09-21 19:09]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-21 19:33
"oh and someone mentioned corny lyrics (or as good as) have you never listened to Demon lyrics ? some are fantastic but some are extremely corny no change there then."

That would be me. For me, Dave is generally known for strong, intelligent socially-aware lyrics. Unless you are referring the more basic albums. But I do take your point.

"In some ways i feel for Giles he is the same as anyone entitled to his opinion and seems to me to only RISE when people RISE to his questions or opinions,best thing to do is just dont reply then surely he can have no more to say on the matter(i suppose thats me RISING to Giles there)"

It has nothing to do with 'rising'; I am not trying to provoke anyone. I believe that I make fair and valid points that are of my opinion. What seems to happen is that people don't like what I put (or don't understand it) and react in a rather aggressive and somewhat abusive manner. I then respond to that in order to defend and clarify my point(s) - it's quite natural.
[Edited 2012-09-21 19:34]
the truth sayer
world
26 posts
Reg: 3/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-22 17:42
nearly rose to Giles then,oh shit! i just have Rolling Eyes
Archie69
Sweden
4 posts
Reg: 14/2-09
Posted: 2012-09-22 20:02
Hi !

I like Unbroken a very consistent album without a bad track. The playing is great and very good vocals from Dave. The songs that stick with me right now are Shine a light, Fill your head with rock, Private lives and I still believe. Very Happy

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-24 08:28
The title track has REALLY grown on me (been playing it on a loop in the car to work).....struggling to dig the bridge though. I may have been a bit quick to review this album.....
[Edited 2012-09-24 08:29]
NP: Unbroken - Demon

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-24 11:19
Steve Watts 2001 wrote:
Hello

Some interesting conversations around the new Demon album, (which I haven't heard yet apart from the single which I really quite like), and it's interesting to see that the favourite track so far seems to be "Take Me To Your Leader" (described as Spaced Out Monkey'ish)...which is really odd, as this album again appears to be a least favourite amongst fans?

I think SOM is an excellent album by the way and thought at the time that it's unpopularity was largely due to the fact that the band were bravely trying something a bit different. Now a very traditional '80's album has been delivered (apparently) and this has been criticised as too traditional. Man! You certainly can't please all the Demon fans all the time can you?

I personally believe that this is largely due to a lack of identity (or rather confusing identity), and that this has always been a troublesome major issue for Demon. You have that name for a start (heavily criticised throughout the '80's when I was writing for the band); then...are they progressive?/progressive metal?/NWOBHM?/Classic Rock?/Heavy Metal/AOR? All of these?

I thought (mainly due to Mike Stones earlier accusations of the Demon album poll being fixed) that you might be interested to see the top 20 DEMON songs on the DDR - Demon YouTube Channel (of course this is heavily biased due to the fact that there are very few songs featuring other Demon composers).

Anyway, for what it counts; I do rather like the single from Unbroken; clichéd it may be, unimaginative too, but its played very well; the chorus is very catchy, and the sentiments delivered sincerely I think.

I'll give the album a listen and put my two-penneth-worth in at a later date..."Take Me To Your Leader" - very good...wouldn't happen to be any references to a certain spaced-out (monkey)mega-dude in the lyrics again would there Dave? Careful...


THE DEMONOLATERS - DDR - DEMON YOUTUBE TOP 20:

1: Time Has Come - 5,406 views
2: No More Hell On Earth (CD Re-Master) - 3,673
3: Night Of The Demon (Live In Germany) - 1,217
4: Remembrance Day - 1,147
5: What Do You Think About Hell - 1,018
6: Blue Skies I Red Square - 895
7: Tonight (The Hero is Back) - 638
8: Barons Of Darkness/Hold On To The Dream - 595
9: Remembrance Day (Live In Germany) - 589
10: Fever In The City/Wonderland (12? Re-Mix) - 468
11: Grown-Ups/Summit/One Small Step/First Class/Cold In The Air - 439
12: No More Hell On Earth (Orig.Vinyl) - 416
13: The Plague (Live In Germany) - 402
14: 'Secret Message' (from Heart Of Our Time) - 396
15: Don't Break The Circle (Live In Germany) - 395
16: Commercial Dynamite/The Life Brigade - 311
17: The Life Brigade (Orig. Vinyl) - 296
18: Coming Home - 294
19: Finale (The Dude Rides Out) (Orig. Vinyl) - 270
20: Life On The Wire (Live In Germany) - 264


I don't fully understand the apparent unpopularity of SOM amongst Demon fans. It has ALL the ingredients of ALL other Demon albums, as far as I can tell, and therefore is probably the best Demon album in terms of representation of their work (apart from "Best Ofs" of course) in general. Its unpopularity can only illustrate that fans really belong to one 'camp' or another (see Steve's 'confused' categories for Demon). Personally, I like the blend of all those categories demonstrated on this album, but I think I am in an extreme minority.

When Demon have stuck to a specific style for a given period, I have favoured the Hill/Watts era where the sound was generally big, powerfully orchestrated hard rock with clever dynamics. This seems to be the case with others according to 'THE DEMONOLATERS - DDR - DEMON YOUTUBE TOP 20' too!

With respect to the new album: I may have been a little hasty to judge and critisise because I have been disappointed that it simply falls into the category of 80s clichéd heavy metal, and I always put Demon 'above' that. However, a few more spins I realise that there IS a certain quality to it...and some of Dave's lyrics are cleverly subtle.

"Take Me To Your Leader" - very good...wouldn't happen to be any references to a certain spaced-out (monkey)mega-dude in the lyrics again would there Dave?


I think so Steve - you're messing with the real moonwalker!!
NP: Unbroken - Demon

GOUDG
Kidsgrove Stoke On Trent Staffordshire England
339 posts
Age: 54 years
Reg: 8/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-24 12:15   » Email
Right just to correct you on a few things Steven,I dont not see this as my turf as you put it I see this forum as a forum created for everyone who are fans of Demon whether that be a new fan or old,I also do not see myself as an online policeman as you put it I see myself as a true fan of Demon and as such because of the way we fans are treated by Dave,Mike and Co I cant speak for others but for myself I see Demon members as friends not just as my favourite band for the simple reason all members of the Demon camp have and still do treat all fans as if they are close friends with no exceptions.

Because of this and my staying true and faithful to my friends I will defend them to the death if need be,my problem with Giles and yourself stems from the constant disrespect they have recieved from both yourself and Giles on several occassions. While I understand you have issues from the past you feel need to be addressed its not appropriate to post them on here, I feel you need to keep them private between yourself and those you feel you have them with as they DO NOT CONCERN US AS FANS THEY ARE PRIVATE BUSINESS. your constant spamming on here was causing problems for us all on here and many have left the forum because of both that and Giles disrespect of Demon. And of course my having to rebuke you giles for the disrespect which Im sure will have been very annoying to all.

If you wish me to respect you please if you will stop posting private business on here and keep it private stop the spamming to get attention we know you have released a new album you dont need to keep spamming it,Giles please stop disrespecting Demon I have no prolem with you posting your opinion of the the album but lets not disrespect members Ok I understand its not totally to your taste thats your choice and perfectly ok but please dont as I have to keep saying please do not disrespect Demon and its members or you will recieve disrespect at the very least from me.

I will defend them every time you disrespect them whether you or steve like it or not as I will defend all my fiends when someone disrespects them (I would not be a true friend if I didnt) I will respect you both when you earn it not until as I expect only to get respect when and if I earn it also lets end this once and for all enough said me thinks
[Edited 2012-09-24 12:22]

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-24 13:03
all members of the Demon camp have and still do treat all fans as if they are close friends with no exceptions.


Until you disagree or pose an unwanted question.

Kevin, can you post without including my name???

Can you please give me specific examples of this so-called 'disrespect' from me that you constantly refer to?? PLEASE.
[Edited 2012-09-24 13:07]

russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 51 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-24 15:05   » Website
My thread is hi-jacked....

Songs that stick out for ME after 3 spins:
Take Me To Your Leader
Unbroken
Private Lives
Prey(incl. intro)


Now I've have to concentrate on the ProgPower Europe bands for a couple of weeks.

Thursday October 4
PERSEFONE (andorra)

Friday October 5
ØRKENKJØTT (norway)
ANUBIS GATE (denmark)
HEAVEN'S CRY (canada)

Saturday October 6
A LIQUID LANDSCAPE (the netherlands)
SHATTERED SKIES (ireland)
ALARUM (australia)
THE LIEVITATION HEX (australia)
NIGHTINGALE (sweden)
VANDEN PLAS (germany)

Sunday October 7
ATLANTIS (the netherlands)
EMPTY YARD EXPERIMENT (dubai)
UNEVEN STRUCTURE (france)
BOREALIS (canada)
AKPHAEZYA (france)
CIRCUS MAXIMUS (norway)
NP: Circus Maximus - Namaste

Steve Watts 2001
134 posts
Reg: 5/12-11
Posted: 2012-09-24 18:47   » Email
GOUDG wrote:
Right just to correct you on a few things Steven...


Oh dear!

Space Dog
Barmstedt
196 posts
Age: 53 years
Reg: 3/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-25 03:31   » Email
Hi Kevin and friends,

just see this as a soap opera. I am amused about every new input of these guys (and i am looking forward to the next one).
Without this we wouldn´t have had Neil´s amazing poetrical coming out which i really adore. Guess it´s time for some Demon lyrics written by Neil concerning what´s going on here. Thanks for that.
Let´s see it from this point...
... any post is better than no post... (for our entertainment)
Laughing

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-25 08:54
Steve Watts 2001 wrote:
GOUDG wrote:
Right just to correct you on a few things Steven...


Oh dear!


That's you told - Steven!
Smile
Archie69
Sweden
4 posts
Reg: 14/2-09
Posted: 2012-09-25 09:11
I thought this thread was about the new album. Anyway Prey has grown on me and so has the title track. The album gets better and better and is now in my best of five list of Demon albums. The other are ( in no specific order) : The unexpected Guest, Breakout, Taking the world by storm and Hold on to the dream. Very Happy
NP: Demon - Prey

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-25 09:35
I thought this thread was about the new album.


It was/is until you get this when your point of view of the album doesn't suit:

I think you need to take that suitcase and navigate yourself away from this forum to enable some sanity to return to it Giles,you obviously do not like demon so why log onto a forum where you don't have respect for band member's or their
musical output.


All, read the posts before you unite against Giles.

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-09-25 09:43
The album gets better and better


I HAVE warmed to the album a little, and a handful are now very listenable (Wings of Steel, I Still Believe, Unbroken, Prey, Take me to your leader). It's a damn site better than that 'Better the Devil' thing, that's for sure!
bandenchef
Germany, Sachsen
8 posts
Reg: 23/4-12
Posted: 2012-09-27 18:04
Damn, I ordered my copy the day since it could be preordered on Amazon.DE. The site claimed that it would be available on Sep. 29. When I viewed the site today, it said: available on Oct. 12.

Why do they keep the germans waiting that long. SEND MY COPY

ps.: If it seems that I'm a bit impatient the cause is: I am impatient (didn't happen very often before a album release)
larky
Savona - Italy
69 posts
Age: 48 years
Reg: 9/9-12
Posted: 2012-10-04 21:03   » Email
Fortunately Unbroken will retire tuesday in Genoa from another retailer

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-10-05 14:42
I was in HMV, Trafford Centre last night and was quite surprised to see Demon with their own section containing multiple copies of 'Unbroken'!! Cool
Stefan
Sundsvall
14 posts
Reg: 30/6-10
Posted: 2012-10-06 14:02
When I got the new album, Unbroken, I was really eager to listen at this long-awaited disc from the Demon, but I was disappointed.
I have not been particularly fond of the two latest discs from the Demon, and I thought this record reminded about them.

After a week, I sat and listened to it alone without being disturbed by the wife and kids =), and the record was good, really good.

Now I've listened to it several times and I can say that Hill, Ogden and Farrington has created a really good Demon record, this record is among the 4 best Demon discs in my opinion.

I hope it is not the last, but that we can look forward to more releases from Demon in the future.

Good luck with the gigs, hope there will be many to come.

/ Stefan

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-10-09 09:22
It IS 'a grower', and a good half of the tracks are jolly good rock songs. It's the best effort for twenty years (but that's only four albums) with the exception of SOM.
rockavlon
Athens
1 posts
Age: 38 years
Reg: 11/10-12
Posted: 2012-10-11 19:35   » Website
http://www.grande-rock.com/reviews/demon_-_unbroken

my review of the album !!!

An email - interview, might not be a bad idea - might also be in the general midlands area, from the 19-25th of the current, so even a f2f, might be an option if i can fit it between gigs !

Moneky-man-ager andFather of time, can it be done ?!

Dimi here by the way ! That Dimi !

Giles
Cheshire
746 posts
Reg: 5/5-06
Posted: 2012-10-12 08:28
I thought that was a good review rockavlon. I didn't agree with all of it, but it was a well-informed, well-written and constructive review. Thanks.

russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 51 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-10-24 18:01   » Website
Just curious,
How come you choosed Jens Bogren & Fascination Street for mastering?
demon drummer
stoke
383 posts
Reg: 6/3-11
Posted: 2012-10-24 23:57
SIMPLE RUSS they are the best in the business at the moment ..cant fault there quality and manner ,very pro will definately use them again in the future...you swedes lucky devils
larky
Savona - Italy
69 posts
Age: 48 years
Reg: 9/9-12
Posted: 2012-10-25 00:15   » Email
heheh I was missing .... I'm here I'm here
Under my personal point of view with regard to layout the album is good. cute the cover, even if after 7 years, I would have made more articulated, it seems a bit thin. Good idea the book and beautiful pictures, good mike. At first listen it seemed to be back in the days of Unexpected guest or night of the..., a hard rock very rough. I would say without a doubt that if we were in 2012, the 'album could very well be the golden age of the NWOBHM. As I said, the sound, a nice rock style demon early 80's. Surely the new line-up has had a lot of rhythm. before reading the criticism, hear the song on yt and I thought to buy a sound like Taking the world ...
Below is a brief review
Cover 5/10
artwork 8/10 (what's a digital book? it's the first for me ... cooool)
intro - pray 7/10
shine a light 7/10
unbroken 8/10
wings of steel 10/10 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
fill your head with rock 5/10
take me to your leader 6/10
private lives 6/10
we can make it 7/10
what bout the night 8/10
i still believe 7/10
Certainly will not be the most beautiful album that demon did, but because at this time, after 30 years I was able to chat with some of them, I put it in my favourits
Overall: 8/10
OK I'm going to sleep hello!

russel
Sweden, Örebro
261 posts
Age: 51 years
Reg: 2/5-06
Posted: 2012-10-25 16:12   » Website
Neil,
OK as I thought.
We also had Dan Swanö's Unisound here, but he moved to Krefeld in Germany this summer.

Next time you guys come up and visit as the studio is located in the suburbs of my hometown Wink

Hmm, can't insert a picture here, so I set it as a link below.

T-shirt arrived today!!!
» Unbroken
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